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June 01, 2005


Terrence Seamon

Hello Caroline.

I enjoyed this blog entry on followers and leaders and agree with your point that it's a dance. Leaders need to be attuned to the influence (the leadership capability) of their followers and receptive to their input.

Greetings from New Jersey!


Leanne Shawler

Not entirely sure, but it sounds like what your course is really about is "teamwork" and that is a buyable buzz-word!

Caroline Ramsey

I tend to find that people often talk about 'teamwork' when they really mean co-ordination. I see that as being different because teamwork brings with it all sorts of ideology about loyalty, team-goals. All of these things tend, like leader theory, to priviledge those already in power. One of the sessions I designed was entitled "On being helpfully subversive"!

Teamwork also often assumes communication, I want to make conversation a 'problem' to which people attend and think about carefully.

I also try to avoid buzzwords! :-)

Ruth S

Hello Caroline

I'm Ruth. I got through to your blog from 'tworedboots'. Have got this far reading and just wanted to say that I can't help but agree with you.

The primary problem is that in church,'leaders' are to lead people to Jesus, and very often they lead people to the church or the programme. "Follow me..." are the famous words He spoke, so yes, followers is what we're looking for.

After all,the five fold ministry, in my understanding is for the 'equipping of the church for works of service' ... Eph 4. Not the equipping of the 5 fold ministry... :-)

Emma B

I've also been thinking about the importance of being a good follower recently... stimulated like you by the abundance of leadership malarky around - in church and in my profession... my ponderings were around the ideas of "everyone's a leader" and "natural leaders" and "seeing something of leadership in someone" ... all very circular trains of thought in my head - especially heading nowhere when actually not everyone gets to lead and certainly not all of the time...

Interestingly, one of the final modules on my course was about management in the nhs ... but what was emphasised was that of the 300 or so of us taking that course clearly not all would end up in management positions, hence one of the goals of the module was to talk about the management style of our future employer and help us understand it in a way that would enable us to work/cope better being managed in that workplace... a bit like how to follow it and work with it?

I am suprised that your course idea wasn't taken up, it sounds very useful to me, but maybe counter cultural where we are success-motivated and somehow think that success=leadership?

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